This is the final podcast as I put the podcast on hiatus for a bit to focus on other activities.
Most of the stories we hear about agile transformation, or a rollout of <insert the method name here>, it’s from someone selling something, or from the consultants, or leaders who were responsible for the rollout itself. I haven’t seen very many (any?) stories from people who were employees of the organization who had to figure out how to work within the method when they didn’t really have a say in how and why it was brought in.
This podcast features Ryan Latta, who was a developer on a team, and Sean Melody, who was a chief architect at the time their organization brought in SAFe. The purpose of this podcast is to understand the difference in perspective about a change that was decided upon that people affected had no real say in. In this instance SAFe is the trigger for change, so this podcast isn’t about debating whether or not SAFe is good idea, or how it works.
We chat about what the reaction was like, how the teams adjusted, what problems they ran into and how they dealt with them.
Topics We Discuss:
- What were your roles at the time and thoughts about SAFe being brought in
- How did the decision to use SAFe come to be?
- How did the rollout happen? Who was tapped on the shoulder to make it work?
- How did you balance delivering software while making this transformation happen?
- How did people adjust to being put into some of the SAFe roles and what type of friction was created (if any)?
- At one point, the organization decided to build features vertically (that is, cutting across teams instead of building by component). What was that like? (Ryan answers from a team member perspective, Sean jumps in with his perspective as a leader in the organization)
- It seems like the focus was on delivery and SAFe wasn’t a destination or the focus, say more about that.
- Finally, did some people have a bad reaction to SAFe, or ‘agile baggage’ that needed to be dealt with?
About Sean Melody

About Ryan Latta

